From Both Sides of the Check, Featuring Susie Bowie, President and CEO at William G. and Marie Selby Foundation

From Both Sides of the Check is a podcast mini-series as part of The Patterson Foundation’s Beyond The Blog podcast. In this week’s episode, Andrew Spector interviews Susie Bowie, President and CEO at the William G. and Marie Selby Foundation. Through “From Both Sides of the Check,” we explore what it’s like to work in the philanthropic sector through conversations with people working at foundations who have worked on both the funder and nonprofit sides. The goal of the podcast series is that these conversations are instructive for people on both sides of the check and helpful in illuminating a path forward for even stronger collaboration in the philanthropic sector so we can drive even more impact.

Key Podcast Themes

• Philanthropic collaboration
• Funder-nonprofit relationships
• Power dynamics
• Trust-based philanthropy
• Fundraising
• Hiring empathy

Timestamps

• 00:00 - 00:37 Introduction
• 00:37 - 02:17 Susie’s Role and Defining Success in her Role
• 02:17 - 03:27 Favorite Part of her Role
• 03:27 - 04:28 How Susie Ensures She’s Always Learning
• 04:28 - 08:02 Least Favorite Part of Her Role and Uniqueness of Different Sectors
• 08:02 - 13:40 What Susie Wishes More Nonprofits Knew about Funders
• 13:40 - 16:49 What Susie Wishes She Knew about Funders when she was at a Nonprofit
• 16:49 - 20:33 Transition from Nonprofit to Funder
• 20:33 - 22:44 Leveraging Nonprofit Experience as a Funder
• 22:44 - 24:48 Dream Partnership and Feedback
• 24:48 - 26:07 Building Trust and Mitigating Power Dynamics
• 26:07 - 28:37 Summary and Centering Humility
• 28:37 - End Closing

Soundbite recommendation: The importance of foundations hiring those with nonprofit experience 18:03-18:55

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